On this week’s Granger Smith Podcast, Granger sits down with Christian hip-hop artist, spoken word poet, and all-around encourager, Dillon Chase—and the conversation is as real as it gets.

From the Texas panhandle to the heart of Oklahoma, Dillon shares his powerful testimony of growing up surrounded by addiction and pain, and how those hard roads ultimately led him straight to Jesus. Dillon gets honest about what it means to suffer as a Christian—walking through special needs parenting, prodigal children, and the reality that following Christ doesn’t mean life gets easier. In fact, sometimes the suffering goes even deeper, but God’s goodness is always greater.

The guys talk about the transformation that happens when you move from “knowing about God” to really knowing Him, how true discipleship changes everything, and why the local church—and having real spiritual mentors—matters so much. Dillon opens up about his journey from secular rap to using his music and spoken word as a platform for the gospel, with encouragement from Christian hip-hop legend Lecrae and a passion to see lives changed, not just entertained.

They dive into the messy beauty of church history, denominations, expository preaching, and how reading the Bible for more than just “comfort” can actually confront, challenge, and reshape our lives. Plus, Dillon performs a moving spoken word piece live on the show. If you’ve ever wrestled with suffering, struggled with church hurt, or wondered how to hold onto hope when life gets hard, this episode will encourage and equip you.

Listen in for:

➡️ A raw, unfiltered testimony about faith in the fire
➡️ Why “suffering is temporary, but God’s goodness is forever” (2 Corinthians 4)
➡️ Behind-the-scenes stories from the Christian music world
➡️ The life-changing impact of discipleship and community
➡️ How God can redeem even the darkest parts of our story

Check out Dillon’s music on all platforms and stay tuned for his upcoming album, “Not Destroyed.”

Subscribe, rate, and share this episode if it resonates—because someone you know probably needs this hope, too.

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